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Well that sparked some discussion.default smiley :o

I am glad that for the most part I have all the divines coming up in the sales except the Balios one. I may open a couple TCs for but if I don't get it then that is OK also.

Maybe because I am older I don't feel the need or the "must have" sense others do.

I just enjoy the game the way I play with only a few pet peeves with it.
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By Retired breeder, February 14, 2015 05:16:35
Oh okay. I meant, does anyone know what the next promo was going to be. default smiley (lol) I should of clarified. default smiley 8-) I personally believe that the next one will be the pinata
I am going to post a Pro-Con post that was done by one of the testers on prepod. It not only describes some of the features coming up but also shows you where 99% of the testers stand.

An Admin did reply stating they would present the comments to the developers and who knows some things.

Because it reveals a lot of info not on the live servers it is under the following spoiler.

This post reflects my opinion also.

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So I've looked at all the changes we're going to get very soon. And I simply need to mention some of my thoughts.

All games need to change and evolve to keep the players interested.

Please do not feel shy because my post is so long. Or solely look at it as a rant. I have given it all some serious thought..

- PRO -
Interface mods
- like how the mission breakdown is located at the EC office page. Easy to change without having to click around a lot.

That we can decide what % we use when the horses go on missions hunts.

- Reserved boxes
Love how they are now located on their own tab.

- Workshops, greenhouses -
Good idea that they come in 3 different sizes. That we can have more than one workshop or greenhouse.

That we can craft various items and sell them.

That we can now have 6 meadows.



- CON -
Production
- I do not understand why a large workshop can only produce 300 mashes, and that said production take 12 hours

- that we cannot decide how many units we want to produce (within a max limit the workshop can handle of course).
Example allow me to produce 10 saddles, 10 bridles and X amount of something.
Not set it to 30 saddles only (in the large workshop)

- Workshops -
Production of the bigger workshops and crafting some items requires a scary amount of resources.

Crafting boxes requires wood and sand? I do not quite understand that combination.
sand for err bricks maybe?

- Repairs -
Repairing a 74% wear and tear 3 star box costs:
37 x wood
37 x sand
19 x iron

compared to live, where I have to pay 200e
That difference is mind blowing....sorry to say

RESOURCE GATHERING
That the amount of resources you can find on a mission solely depends on the skills of X horse.
You should think about looking at other features as well.
Just to mention a few
- was the horse bred from blupped parents
- did the owner do foal games (and gained the max possible skills)
- the blup of the horse - did the energy level drop too low at some point.
- was it put to bed too late.
- does it have a GA...etc.etc

Just because a horse does not have killer skills does not mean it cannot be some players favorite. Surely there is a little room for the lower end horses as well?

RESELL OPTION
- it is a tad messy now with all the items. Can we have tabs?
Like fodder, resources, tack etc.

EMPLOYEES
That you got rid of the employees only to replace them with virtual ones that require the player to pay either 1 pass or diamonds for one months worth of X benefit to the EC.
Sure they old employees were a hazzle, but bringing them back, only to ask for diamonds or passes is just not right.



SERIOUSLY DISLIKE
- the feed-pearls-on-a-string feature we now have, when feeding the horses.
I have disabled that one live for a reason. I like to use shortcuts and the old interface is perfect for that.
Sure you can have the autofeed option if your VIP. But all the clicking required for those that does not have said feature is hardly fair. Please give us the option to use the old interface with the drop down boxes.

- that the box and meadow has been removed from the horse page. Yes we can add various items to get energy compensation. But the meadow and box gave the game a little reality..faint as it might be


QUESTIONS
- will the amount you have to pay for feeds in the store also depend on supply and demand? Or will the amounts available be infinite at a frozen amount per unit when we go live?

- will the price for 1 star cloths, wraps and bonnets vary also? Or will the amount you have to pay be frozen like it is now?

- Cows
Once the 30 day period is up and we can get leather. Will we then have to buy more cows? Or are they like apples and will stay in the meadow until we cancel that...err crop?
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I see your point and agree with you
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@ Cyberhorse

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Are they not letting you use divines for the missions either ? A lot of people use divines as fillers for their EC occupancy % -- would really be a shame not ot be able to use them
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You can use them but who has ever done lessons with divines, I sure never did.
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So this is the first time I'm hearing about
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the new feeding thing
... can you please tell me more about it?
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I just do lessons when I'm too lazy to do comps with my prehistoric horses. I have to care for them every day to gain skills, but it's going to be a while before their skills are at interesting levels.
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well I don't compete with my divines as a general rule ( that may change in the future ) but -- as we all know, some divines are just not good compers (Balios is awful) soo.. I was just thinking that would give those divines a new purpose in life -- IF we could use them that is
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The feed drop down option has been removed and only the dotted scale can be used. I seriously hate this change.
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I compete with my Waters (I have the whole set ^^ ) who win tons of rosettes and I'm training my Pearl and Qilin to that level.
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I do lessons and put all my divines into comps everyday in order to gain extra equus.


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I always do lessons with my divines. Most of them have low skills and I only use them as glorified trophies which earn me AP's when i age them. It's just not worth it to put them into comps where they consistently lose.So yes, there are people who just do this with their divines.

As far as the string-of-pearls feature for feeding and training. I honestly adore this feature and for the life of me haven't figured out why so may people don't like it. It requires 2 fewer clicks in the whole process for feeding your horse. With the old way you had to click the feed button. Then click the fodder drop down box. Then click the amount to feed. Then click the grain drop down. Then select the amount of grain. Then finally hit the feed button to administer.

The string of pearls lets you just select both right there. And if you miss the amount you want, you just use your scroll button to slide it up and down. Same with the training. The VIP feature really only works well for when you are working pass horses and all you are doing is lessons and feeding. I don't ever use the VIP auto feed when blupping because I would underfeed every single time as I know that a horse gets it's max energy from being fed when it has a lot of energy still. So I always feed the max amount right after the lesson and never at the end of the day.

But I'm an open minded person and would absolutely love to know why folks don't like this option......I know a lot don't, but have yet to understand why. I do however wish they would leave this option as it is for those who like it the old way and give them that opportunity to choose.

As far as the boxes and resources. That all depends on how many resources are collected with each mission or how much the cost in the store is for each of the items needed. If each resource needed is only 1e per item, then 37 wood, 37 sand and 19 iron really isn't much. But if it's 10e (or more) for each, then that would be a significant cost. I do personally plan (and suggest) that everyone who is able, to repair their boxes just before this goes live. That way you will have a little over 2 months before you will have to worry about having to repair them and give you time to gather the resources.
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Hm, good idea. I just did that right now, and I'll do it again in two weeks. Any guesses to when these changes will be out?


default smiley (o) I didn't know that you could disable it or that it would make a difference, I just change the amount of oats before clicking "feed".
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You can't disable it, I just don't use the amount they suggest because all I've ever done at this point is a lesson. But if I did use what they suggested at this point, I'd have a very hungry, skinny horse. So I "ignore" my autofeed when blupping. Sorry I confused you on that!
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@rpbierly already thought of the need to repair boxes --- fortunately, I don't have very many (yeah!)
done done done -- and will be done one more time before changes hit us ---

I think everyone needs to think and read and get ready, take some time off from promos and get your account ready for these things -- from what I've read here -- it's going top be rough going for a bit
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Resources are not cheap. But repairing your boxes before the update would be a good tip as it take a lot of resources that will take time to get or a lot of equus to buy.

As far as the drop down. The beads are very small and I personally find it hard to select the right one. Remember there are older people on this game that find the drop down much easier for them. I just think they should have left in the OPTION to chose. That would satisfy everyone, not a select group ( and ignoring the other group).

Here is a bit of the cost breakdown but not the full rollout. It is NOT cheap to get what you will need to fully equip your EC.

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The box water troughs are running at 30,000 each and take 3 days to make in the workshop. Showers take 120 hours( cost is 52,000 e). Here the amount of iron is a lot.

The large workshop costs 160,000 and take 300 hours and a lot of sand and wood.

The boxs can now only be made and again sand and wood ( and a lot of these resources) and take 192 hours ( 3 star).

All resources can be bought at 10 e per unit.


I went through 4,000,000 to outfit a 65 stall EC.. But I bought the items. Would cost less but take a few weeks to do it the crafting way. [/spoiler]
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Cyber said the test site closes on the 23rd, and it usually follows in just a few days after.
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So I guess it would also be wise to make all the manure and mashes I'll need for a while now?
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That I have already done and a very good idea.

rpbierly --if my guess is right we have this next week to prepare and the changes will likely show up the following week.
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By Retired breeder, February 14, 2015 20:18:33
Jobs are coming back to howers!default smiley <:o)
But even better this time
the employees will be virtual and will cost passes (or diamonds?) not sure, I get mixed up --
I don't have that many diamond giving divines --- and I will not use them to pay "employees" so that little status thing will not be on my EC --- way too expensive for my blood
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Not jobs, employees. You can't be hired, and employees are basically perks for your EC that cost a pass per month.
I guess some of them may be considered better but I'd prefer the free & unlimited tack our employees used to supply. And I will never be able to afford the new "employees"
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I honestly dislike it in a huge way just because of how it looks. I have been with old fashion text based browser games pretty much since I started getting into virtual gaming online and I am picky about the aesthetics of a game. The pearl string just seems out of place with the rest of the game, and while I typically enjoy learning new systems within a game, I get muscle memory where my feed dropbox goes and my training. It is also rather small from what I recall the time or two I have seen it, and my eyes and small font/text just are not going to ever agree.

Thanks Cyber for posting that, I hope Admin does look into things a bit, it seems a tad over the top for some things when it comes to cost to even keep things moving along.
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