@Cyberhorse and WolfSinger.

N__Z__C promo

Sorry for typo's. I didn't use the flash sales is what I meant

@Cyber have you come up with a strategy for the P____ yet?

@the wolf queen, there has been no official word. I suggest using contact us.

horseloverforever:

Yes. It will be here tomorrow.

Your decision will depend on which path you want to take. The divine or just BMIs.

@ Wolf Queen and cjhorses

@BreeMK,

Sweet thanks!

Does anyone have a complete recipe list? It would be greatly appreciated

No one has all the recipes. Also questions regarding this promo should be posted in the current promo thread above.

Well this is meaning that top teams will be getting to 70 BLUP faster because of the GP gained during wins. making it harder for lower teams in several breeds that are chasing the top ones give up entirely.

Being top team will have absolutely not effect on how fast someone is able to blup. GP does NOT affect blup, Blup effects GP. Having a higher GP horse does NOT mean you will be blupping it any faster than someone with a lower GP horse.

What we WILL see is a distinction in whether or not teams choose to blup to 100% going forward, or choose to continue ignoring Wins (which probably will no longer equal 70% but something closer to 50% depending on the weight given to the variables going forward). Those teams that choose to aim for 100% will see increased GP gains, whereas those choosing to breed before 100% are going to see less return for their work.

Lets please not spread rumors and misinformation around with panicked comments.

I'm not sure this needs a spoiler, but I'm going to anyway, just to be on the safe side....

It did need a spoiler and thanks for making the right choice.

In answer to teeheehee

Probably 1st or 2nd week of Nov for both.

@Cyberhorse, figured it'd be better to be safe, over sorry.

Both by early November.

I hate to say this but your so very wrong it is gonna affect us they are already stomping us in every race trying to keep us from blupping our horses and in rosettes as well they cant handle someone else being number 1 they gotta use their devines to take the races away where is that fair why cant the divines have their own rosette races and stay out of the regular races for rosettes so everyone has a fair shot the very top teams dont play fair

By Hallaloth, October 21, 2017 15:21:37 1
NotSure wrote:

Well this is meaning that top teams will be getting to 70 BLUP faster because of the GP gained during wins. making it harder for lower teams in several breeds that are chasing the top ones give up entirely.


Being top team will have absolutely not effect on how fast someone is able to blup. GP does NOT affect blup, Blup effects GP. Having a higher GP horse does NOT mean you will be blupping it any faster than someone with a lower GP horse.

What we WILL see is a distinction in whether or not teams choose to blup to 100% going forward, or choose to continue ignoring Wins (which probably will no longer equal 70% but something closer to 50% depending on the weight given to the variables going forward). Those teams that choose to aim for 100% will see increased GP gains, whereas those choosing to breed before 100% are going to see less return for their work.

Lets please not spread rumors and misinformation around with panicked comments.

Lets put this simply for people on second and third place teams right now 200 GP behind top teams. I can run my 100 blup KWPN at 1130 jump GP against a Holsteiner at 1300. and I am getting third place? so yes blup does affect GP gained with a new weighted scale towards wins.

@NotSure, I'm not on a team, and haven't been for a while, perhaps I don't know what I'm talking about, but it is possible to get wins, even with lower skilled horses.

I have ATs that are around low 3000 GP, so it is hard racing against other horses, because a lot of horses have a higher GP. That being said, I normally skill after the race, and work on rides before the horses reach 3 years old, so I get skill points, but not as much as I normally would. After that, I choose races that I am aware give my horses a better chance at winning. For my ATs, it isn't Cross Country, where I know I'll be crushed, but Show Jumping and Gallop, with the occasional trot.

Also, if you really want to skill, I would work on Speed, because it is never a skill the comp uses to determine the level of racing you are in. Speed is normally a second or third skill needed, but does help.

For all of this, I am refering to BLUPping for classical comps, and for horses with less GP than many of the top horses.

The game is designed the way it is. Players have every right to utilize the game in the way it is designed. If a player wants to enter their divine in available open comps, the game allows them to do that. It is a legitimate way to earn equus and about the only use for many divines is a comp divine. It is an /open/ competition. If you don't want your horses dealing with divines, enter them in breed only comps.

The idea of 'stomping' is honestly rather flawed. 'Stomping' as players define is the idea that a specific individual intentionally targets their horses in comps. Which, frankly, is kind of a double edged sword. Open comps are just that, open competitions that anyone can enter.

A player is not promised their wins by the game. A player does not have an indisputable 'right' to get wins. The game is designed around the idea of competition. The the idea of competition suggests that the best horse will win. If a higher skilled horse enters a comp your horse is in, divine or otherwise the game allows this to be done. No rules are being broken, and no one is stepping outside the boundaries of the game in an unfair manner.



A KWPN with 1130 going against a Holst with 1300 jump of course is going to lose. It has a lower primary skill than the Holst does, The Holst is likely to win every single time.

Holst Skill set, is Jump, Dressage, Speed which is also the order of skills for the Jump competition itself in terms of weight. Meaning the higher jump skill has more of a weight in the winning the comp than the Dressage skill, which is why a KWPN is less likely to beat a holst, because

KWPN skill set is Dressage, Jump, Speed. Meaning a KWPN is already competing a disadvantage to the Holst. Whether a horse is -50 or +80 Blup has no variance on who wins a competition. The horse's skills at time of entry are what is calculated when deciding who wins a comp.

Of course Blup affects GP of the NEXT generation. GP however does not ever change once a horse is born. If you are running a horse with a lower GP against a high skilled horse, of course it runs the chance of losing against that high skilled horse.

The only change that is happening is a re-weighting of how blup is calculated. So whereas before wins only attributed 30 points towards blup. It will likely be something closer to 60-65.

No one can 'get to 70blup' any faster than anyone else. It will be calculated the same for everybody. I can blup a horse to 70 in an hour or less, and I know others can do it faster. The POINT the change is making is that if teams only breed at 70% blup, they will not as big as a GP increase. And skipping out on doing wins will put teams at lower than 70%, this will be true of everybody, whether you are a top team, or a casual breeder. Yes of course, higher GP horses are more likely to get their wins a little faster because they are the top GP horses on server and have little to no competition

But if I can take a measly 1200GP morgan unicorn and get them all their wins then the idea of it will be 'harder to blup' because of competition over wins for 2nd, 3rd place teams is just a little silly. I am on a 2nd place unicorn Arabian team, I have never had trouble getting wins for my Arab unicorns

1st place teams will be doing the same amount of 2nd and 3rd teams. 1st place teams just tend to be move faster because 'lets be real, they have more resources from being able to sell more horses. Top teams usually have more people which means the work is more evenly shared. The combined effort of 10 dedicated people is going out do the combined work of 5 people. They are top because they put the work into it, but it is not impossible for a top team to be overtaken either, it has happened, several times in fact. .

I'd like to add something to this all. I breed NIB 350 based Quarter horses, I compete against horses with sometimes five times the GP or higher, my horses do just fine. I just finished blupping a mare, with 20 wins, fully 100 bluped, and she had no problem getting wins. I just took some time, about three real life days total because I don't spend all day on this game, and I tested her skills out, and discovered that she worked best in trail class competitions. If show wins are so GP based, why would my mare be doing so well in comps, with just a 380 GP? She has about 480 in skills right now, after being fully skilled, and as I said, she did great. Its almost certain she was competing against at-lest one or two horses that had better GPs than hers, as I don't use fillers, except for one of my own horses that was a 350 foundation. So, I I can certainly say that she had one 350 filler to help her each comp, but not in all competitions, only in a few, as I have very few foundation fillers, and I have no complaints about the speed of her wins. If you take a little time, put forth the effort, you'll do fine, you cannot expect to enter a competition and win it immediately, that's as unrealistic as thinking you could enter a real life rodeo competition for the first time, and win it your first try. Not likely going to happen.

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