The above post is a complete fake. I really don't think the Howrse Teams signs off as the horse team. I mean really?

It is also not allowed to discuss what is going on with other servers.

First off look at any official message, it is what they sign off as
Second if you’re meaning the capitalization, this was not copy pasted, it was translated and writen down by the person, there’s bound to be a couple slight mistakes
Third it was announced on the Arabic but saying in the message “all servers will eventually receive this optimization” therefore there is a good chance it will hit here and will effect the US server as well as all others. People are allowed to talk about the pass horse change even though it was never announced here, so why can’t I say this?

we aren't allowed to talk about anything that is not varified by the admins -- and no changes have been told to us officially or in test servers about any other change I have heard of --- it is basically "a rumor" ... when it affects the US server we will know, they will tell us

and really -- their sign off is just that --- a sign off --- I never even paid attention to it ---
it's just a nice, cute thing to say ..... means nothing

my advice -- don't believe anything you read on other servers ...

I am only leaving this up to respond to it.

All rumors or postings on other servers are not allowed to be posted on servers where they either do not apply or are not planned for the immediate future.

All posts regarding any pass horse change has been censored and will be as it is simply not in the works for immediate or even somewhat immediate release. Also no final decision has ever been made on them, if they will be implemented or revised as rumors suggest.

When Howrse implements a change we are all given ample notice it is happening ( like the co management change) and any discussion regarding suspected or rumored changes will be censored until the official notification become fact.

Hi Cyber.

First off, just want to say I totally understand there is a rule about "no postings from other servers" and thus my argument here is probably pointless. However, I still feel like I need to make a point since I really don't want the howrse team thinking everyone agrees with what you said.

Howrse has NOT always given us warning of changes (remember the removal of special letters from names??) and I also don't feel it is adequate time at all.

Personally, I'd really like to know what was censored completely with the understanding that it is possible it will never be implemented here but I like a lot more warning for changes then howrse usually gives. I heard about the co-manage change about a week? maybe 2? before it was implemented. And I login every single day and still felt it wasn't enough time.

It was officially announced by PM which went to every player on July 3rd. However it was known much sooner than that as I announced it was coming several pages back to June 19 page 702. Several pages were devoted to just this change. I think it was given adequate notice.

So there was no surprise there.

As far as not posting what is going on with other servers, this comes from Howrse directly. What was posted that is censored not just on this server but others is a complete fake and was verified as fake by the Admins so whatever it was it has no bearing on game play on any server.

Which, is truthfully why the Spoiler thread itself exists. It is put in an easy access place that players can choose to visit for updates pertaining to their server.

In my experience most games don't give any sort of advance notice beyond letting their beta tests share information with people via word of mouth. . . maybe that's changed in certain places over the years, and depending on what you play. . . The one big MMO I played for example we got all our 'spoilers' from our overseas servers where things went live days, weeks even months in advance of our own so we generally knew what our big patch notes were bringing in. . .

Howrse gives us the Spoiler thread so that players can choose to step in and get updates from the test servers that effect them directly. There are very, very few things that we don't get any advance warning on, and in my recollection every single MAJOR game change factor has in fact been in testing and in the spoiler threads since they were introduced.

Has every little minute detail been included? No, 90% of the time there are minor changes that occur that never even appear in the change log and I can think of a handful (including the special characters being removed) without really trying. Most of them get lumped into the 'minor' improvements/changes category that you don't really notice three weeks after they have bee implemented in, especially if they were things that didn't affect one's personal game in the first place.

However, all the big changes are put through testing and promptly 'spoiled' for the public to have advance notice that they can freely access with certainly the information is confirmable.

I do gotta say that we do get warnings but we were also asked how we feel about changes not one helped us as players the changes were made whether or not we liked it I thought the admins were here to help the players and explain to howrse how the players reacted to the changes before it was done there was a promised made from the owner to a special person that played the game and she has passed away with these changes to share accounts I really hope that it wont affect that promise anyway I truly hope we get information on pass horses for now I will continue to play my game and enjoy it if and when it will be changed I really hope that they give us an opportunity that will gives the same as the pass horses

I second that on many notes.

I remember LONG ago when there was an idea forum, it was a brief period, but many ideas were indeed taken into consideration from the players. Hopefully in these upcoming years this may be implemented again. A solid voting system before a change would be nice, but that's wishful thinking. (All votes will carry bias even in the most tiniest of ways... )

Howrse's ecosystem has the potential be be a beautiful jungle with a wide variety of ways to be in-game successful. A forest will do, as it is more manageable.

There has never been an idea forum on this server, only International

I must have left that part out on accident . Thanks cjhorses.

Nonetheless, a revival on all servers could muster up possible advancements. On the other hand it can get hectic with very, *ahem*, "out there" ideas.

Having more multifarious properties on each server could allow players to have some choice in their gameplay.. that's just me. There's so much drama surrounding aspects that are being looked at in terms of would COULD be changed. This server is just one of many branches

That's part of the reason many believe it was removed in the first place. The fact was, many of the 'ideas' were either repeats of ideas already posted by others, unrealistic or things that didn't fit into the premise of the game.

And in truth, while it is nice when a developer takes ideas from their community. . . implementing those ideas can be difficult, or downright impossible. Especially when developers themselves already have a set frame of mind for what they want the game to be, and while sometimes that can be tweaked to incorporate a player idea. . . it's typically not feasible.

There's also the fact that as the internet becomes more and more vast and we sadly see more and more people putting lawsuits out over trivial things. . . there could have also been the potential for intellectual property issues. Take for example players taking ideas they really like from other games and trying to get them on Howrse. . . we definitely already see plagiarism in the creation space, or outright theft at times. . . companies can and do try to push court cases over Intellectual Property, and while developers do their best to research things, there is never a guarantee they'll find where a player may have pulled an idea from.

It is truly amazing how much has been transformed over the years. Howrse has done very well next to it's players. Many players get exceptionally upset when their "system" gets disrupted, even eliminated. It is essential for a DETHRONING to occur though (higher rank). It's not that players don't work hard for their positions, it's just -- well.. falling a couple notches won't hurt. Let someone else have a turn on the slide.

I'm very happy the spoiler section exists. If there's a big enough "uproar" here, there's sure to be some sort of delay or cancellation.. I think. I have yet to witness it. I could be 100% wrong on that, so don't take my word for it.

Call me cynical if you want, but I find what the developers frame of mind includes to be downright laughable. I was on INT for 6 years and have been here now for about 3. I was over there when the Ideas forum was going...and I saw all the players begging for Draft Horses to be brought to the game...to which the admins said would NEVER happen. Same thing with putting wings on unicorns...they claimed it would NEVER happen....oh, really now? After witnessing all these "That will NEVER happen!" claims only to see them happen...I snort and pretty much say "Pfffft!" when they make these claims now. Wait long enough and you see things happen that have been sworn would never come about.....

I actually have to disagree with that. Yes, there has been times when they say something will 'never happen' but, times change, as do situations. At the time when they said such and such things would 'never happen', they probably thought it would ever happen because it was impossible at the time, but then after some time, maybe some updates to systems or designs, and they were able to implement those previously impossible changes. Situations do change. In the years I've been here, plenty of things have changed with computers and programing. I'm sure the same is true with what Howrse can and cannot provide.

I would point out that a time has passed. In the overall structure of the site a lot of things have actually been altered. I can't really think up a reason for Drafts other than perhaps at the time they were not sure how to go about implementing them in a way that was different enough to actually keep people's interest them beyond the 'fad' of Drafts. My guess is winged unicorns was likely a layering issue that they spent time to sort out. . . sort of like how they had to unfortunately discontinue the Diamond Apple due to it not working with their layering structure when displaying graphics. My guess on that that at one point 'wings' and 'horns' were either on seperate layers that didn't mesh together properly, or they existed on the same layer and therefore couldn't due to coding technicality be present on the same horse.

Each company is different, and the things they are able to is entirely dependant on what their employee's are actually capable of designing and properly implementing.

The same thing can be pointed towards Western Comps, and I can't imagine how much coding they had to re-write to add an entirely new subsection of comps into the game code and implement it fairly smoothly so that the game didn't just break.

Small desires like that may seem like a small thing on our side. . . but the coding aspect can takes months to implement even things like the newer interfaces we have to.

Personally I don't remember the Idea's forum all that fondly for every interesting and good idea out there, there were a few dozen more of people just begging for free divines and presents for 'special' occasions and various other things that. . .if we really look at it, Howrse has addressed by giving us more promos and making BMI much more readily available than they used to be

I do remember it and also not too fondly.

What I remember most are ideas I thought could be workable but because one player had like 50 friends they would all go to their friends topic which most of the time had no real merit and a thread with good idea would ( player probably didn't have 50/60 friends) be washed to 2nd or 2rd page and eventually lost.

This happened over and over to the point I stopped even going there to even see what was new.

One thing that may be difficult to code is (this is NOT happening, but could in the future, not positive, but hear me out) that has indeed been receiving blanketed requests are mules. Crossing a donkey x horse sounds very complicated (code wise).. Genetically, or at least as the argument goes, would be too complicated. A compromise could be made.. on how it could work *shrug*. But at least we wouldn't have to worry much about a continued blood-line .



Yes! Divines were rare and there weren't very many.. Not to mention when Sleipnir used to run away! Now they're fairly common and are like putting flowers in a garden of equids

See, the reason I laugh at the admins claim that certain things will never happen is that, clearly, they can make very hard things happen. Plus, I have every faith that they don't just hire computer programmers fresh out of high school...they hire quality people who know every which way around coding (despite the recent promo glitches) and do well at their jobs. Something might seem "impossible" but look at what they have already accomplished! Rather than telling us something will never happen, they should just say they are looking into the possibilities or some such. "Never" is an absolute term and not well-used in such cases as technology progression.